source code

[Marek Slapak]

Hi !

muCommander is cool! but what about source code ? I think it will be very useful - for example , transaltions to another languages can begin, some pluggins and enhancements can be done ..

do you think about releasing of sources ?

thanks, marek

[JohnClaude]

the sources would make mucommander improve really fast, even if Maxence doesn't have time to improve it by himself!

it would help mucommander into getting a "standard" and being used by much more people!

and definetely, plugins would rain from everywhere making soon mu as *The* Commander to use out there!!


go Free, muco!!

[maxence]

Yes I've been thinking about releasing muCommander's source code, from day one actually.

Religion set aside, I also think that everyone would benefit from it and it could potentially speed up the development / bug fixing process if other persons get involved.

But I won't do that until the 2 following conditions are met :
1) Have a solid framework with most of the architecture elements that I had in mind when I first decided to start this project.
2) Have a clean, commented code base which unfortunately is not the case yet (but is getting there).

Without those 2 conditions met, chances are muCommander will not evolve in the right direction (at least the one that I think is right), and it will just be another boring commander.
The fact that it's written in Java is not enough for it to be a good commander, it has to be able to compare feature-wise to the best of the crop such as TotalCommander (formerly Windows Commander).

To sum up, the source is not available *yet*, not because I don't want to open it, but just because I don't think it can benefit the project as it is now.

It's hard for me to say when muCommander source code will be available, best I can say for now is that it is definitely planned and I'm working on it. In the meantime, I may open parts of it for text localization, plug-ins, ...

Thanks for your patience... now back to work ! :)

Maxence

[Scapegoat]

i honestly understand your fears about an "early" release of the source.

but i do think that the History of different Free projects may show the opposite: as a project leader you still keep a total control on what you want and what you don't want to enter your codebase!

more than that: you can decide of specifications or evolutions in "realtime" by puting them on the forum, and accepting only conforming contributions...

i think you may fear some other things than what you say, but that's only my own personal feeling, i don't want to hurt you in any kind.

well all i have to hope now is that you'll quickly have more time to spend on cleaning the code and getting the infrastructure ready for Freedom (instead of putting nifty features in!


sincerely GNU.

[cewood]

muCommander is cool! but what about source code ? I think it will be very useful - for example , translations to another languages can begin, some plugins and enhancements can be done ..

Exactly, so much could be contributed to this project if the source were to be opened to all. And with such a lack of adequate file managers on OS X there is such a huge potential to entice more users over if development were to resume and more releases occurred.

it would help muCommander into getting a "standard" and being used by much more people!

Absolutely, as soon as you have an open source where people can come and not only suggest but contribute to the feature set you attract so much more attention and support.

But I won't do that until the 2 following conditions are met :
1) Have a solid framework with most of the architecture elements that I had in mind when I first decided to start this project.
2) Have a clean, commented code base which unfortunately is not the case yet (but is getting there).

I understand your reservations about not releasing the source at that time, however it is now two years later and there is still no source available. In any case the building of the framework and the commenting of the code could be done with the help of others, as in any endeavor no matter how adamant you are about your own approach it is not always the correct one, and the insight of others as onlookers is what helps us to see this and so correct our mistakes. Seems only logical to include others in these such important aspects of the development so as to make a more solid and stable base from which to extend muCommander.

but i do think that the History of different Free projects may show the opposite: as a project leader you still keep a total control on what you want and what you don't want to enter your codebase!

I totally agree with this, just thinking about all the open source projects that have done so well in opening their code in such an early state of development and how good a thing it has been for their development. Projects that come to mind are adium, growl, bluej, and many more larger projects like jedit and blender.


It has just been so long since any kind of development has been seen, source release, version release, anything I think it is very much the time to just release the source in whatever state it is, thus giving the project a much needed boost and injection of of life.

[Guest]

Is muCommander dead? If so, release the source...

[korheve]

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Is muCommander dead? If so, release the source... Wink

yes please relase the source code..... muCommander is a good soft and need to be maintened...

[Guest]

I think i will start my own java-commander from scratch.

[korheve]

I think i will start my own java-commander from scratch.

It is damage not to benefit from the good work of maxence....but if i can help you why not..!

[cewood]

Please just release the source, its abundantly apparent that you will not be continuing the development of muCommander, so why not release the code to the community so those who use this software and continue to support it can further its development and keep it alive. Please at least respond to our comments here and tell us your side of things.

Kind regards, cewood...

[maxence]

Hey guys,
I'm just catching up with the posts here... I wanted to thank you all for your feedback and apologize for the lack of response which just shows how little spare time I've had recently.

I'm currently stabilizing a new release (0.8) which among other things will come with full source code. I will probably start by releasing a beta version along with the source, I'll post again as soon as it's available.

I'm also thinking about setting up CVS, Bugzilla and dedicated forum sections to help coordinate developments, any feedback/recommandations you may have will be very welcome.

Stay tuned and thanks for your patience.
Cheers,
Maxence

[FrenchGuy]

Hi Maxence,
I am impatient to have this new version.
And congratulation for your good job !

[Crian]

Hi, I don't want to be unpassient, but it's two months ago you wrote the posts above... whats about that version with source code? Is it still on it's way?


I just wanted to start my own Java-Commander-Project for to have a substitution for Total Commander on my iBook but then I was pointed to muCommander. It's a very nice base, but many features are missing. It would be really nice, if the community would be able to add features.

Go on with your good work!

[Guest]

one month later... Give us the source!

[commander bond]

I'd like the source too - need to give my non-technical relative an easier filemanager than the Finder, but want to make a few changes:

for example:

make selected files very obvious (e.g. use a * rather than changing the colour)
add drag n drop support between the windows
(for me) change the filepath boxes to support tab-completion

Naturally I woudl contribute any changes back to you to use (or not)

Not really bothered about CVS tidying up etc. just want the source!