blast from past ... osx 10.2.8 bugs ... v0.8

[gx11a3]

First: thanks for the great program! Have been using it for light jobs for some time now. Really appreciate the work you've put into it.

Second: Two problems I've encountered. One old, one new.

1. OSX version quit working under 10.2.8. Can't remember which beta this started with. Haven't reported because 10.2.8/1.4.1 so old now, don't expect much support for it.

And the "other systems" version has worked. Until this release.

2. Unable to delete files. Something with new "Trash" code?

Here's your system info from the "about":

muCommander
Version: 0.8
Build date: 2007/09/25

Java VM
Name: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
Version: 1.4.1_01-24
Vendor: "Apple Computer, Inc."

OS
Name: Mac OS X
Version: 10.2.8
Architecture: ppc

Here's the Console error I get launching the OSX version:

dyld: /Applications/muCommander.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub can't open library: /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib (No such file or directory, errno = 2)

Not sure what to give you on problem deleting files, but this looked promising:

apple.awt.EventQueueExceptionHandler Caught Throwable :
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: java.lang.String.contains(Ljava/lang/CharSequence;)Z
at gW.c(Unknown Source)
at e.<init>(Unknown Source)
at com.mucommander.ui.action.DeleteAction.a(Unknown Source)

Let me know if I can supply any other info, or if I can help test something. Hope you can sort this out.

Regards,



Greg.

[gx11a3]

This version appears to launch faster and feels snappier than the previous betas. Very useful utility, even on an older system, so nice to see it rapidly improving.

Regards,



Greg.

[Nicolas]

Hey Greg,

Thanks for the feedback, it's great to be able to catch this kind of error so early on.

The deletion bug is now fixed and the fix will be in tonight's nightly build. I will talk to Maxence about maybe re-releasing 0.8, as it's quite important.
Thanks for spotting that one, we would *never* have seen it :)

As for the startup problem, this one looks a bit more awkward to get rid of. We'll look into this and let you know if we find something to get around it.

Cheers,
Nicolas

[maxence]

Hi Greg,
Thanks again for the feedback!

We'll issue a second 0.8 release in the next few days to fix the Java 1.4 compatibility problem. We'll wait a little while to gather additional bug reports, hopefully there won't be any other major bugs.

Is the Jaguar startup problem you describe a separate issue ? I'm a little confused because you did manage to get the version information from the About dialog. Is this problem preventing you from using muCommander under 10.2.8 ?

Thanks,
Maxence

[gx11a3]

Impressed you patched the file deletion issue so fast! Pretty cool. I'll wait for the next release, then, to test.

Yeah, these are separate issues. Sorry for the confusion. To clarify:

1. OSX version (dmg) quit launching in 10.2.8 some time during v0.8 development.

2. So I switched to the "Linux/Other" (tar.gz) -- "for Linux, Solaris, *BSD, OS/2 and other OS with Java support" -- version.

3. "Linux/Other" version worked on 10.2.8 until v0.8 final which has/had the file deletion problem (but is otherwise improved).

If I had known you would be so responsive, I would have filed the original 10.2.8 launch bug when I first noticed it. Sorry about that, just figure most developers have written off 10.2.8 compatibility at this point. Shouldn't assume, I guess.

Thanks again for taking a look at these problems!

Regards,



Greg.

[Nicolas]

Hey there,

Yeah, the OSX problem makes sense. OS X needs a native wrapper to start Java applications as .app, and we upgraded ours to a 'universal' one sometime during 0.8 development. Obviously, universal means 'everything but older versions of OS X', which we weren't aware of.

I don't think we'll integrate a fix in muCommander, it will mean having two different release files for OS X, reworking our build and deployement system, ... all for an OS that's virtually dead.

On the other hand, we *will* post a '10.2 HOWTO' on this forum, so that people in your situation can use the .app file. It's basically 'download JavaApplicationStub from here, copy it to /Applications/muCommander.app/Content/MacOS, restart muCommander'. We just need to unearth the right JavaApplicationStub version before we do that :)

Nicolas

[gx11a3]

A "How To" for 10.2.8 sounds like a fair solution. If you need anything tested on a 10.2.8 machine, just let me know.

Regards,



Greg.

[maxence]

Hi again Greg,

If you copy the JavaApplicationStub file contained in the muCommander.app of the 0.8 beta2 package to the 0.8 .app, you should be able to start the .app under Jaguar.
Note that you'll need to chmod +x the JavaApplicationStub if you copied it using muCommander.

Unlike the Universal Binary JavaApplicationStub that comes with 0.8, this one is PPC only. The reason we 'upgraded' the JavaApplicationStub is that the older required Rosetta to run on Intel machines, which slowed down the application's startup.

Can you please confirm that the former JavaApplicationStub works as it should under Jaguar ?

Thanks!
Maxence

[gx11a3]

That's it. Easy fix and worked great.

Thanks again for taking the time to resolve this. Will let you know if next update changes anything.

Have a great weekend,



Greg.